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12 Times You Can Sue a Debt Collector

posted on 2015-06-26 by Kali Geldis
It’s every consumer’s worst nightmare: You’re busy at work, mired in debt, and your cellphone keeps ringing. You’re doing your best to pay off that bill, but the unknown number flashing on your phone’s screen is a dismal reminder you haven’t.

“Most people want to pay their debt, they just run into bad situations where they can’t,” Gerri Detweiler, director of consumer education for, says. “If a debt collector will work with them, a lot of times, they’ll resolve the debt.”

But not every debt collector plays by the rules, and luckily there are protections in place that allow consumers to fight back if a debt collector has run afoul of the law. Here are 12 times when consumers can sue.

1. Calling Early & Calling Late

A debt collector may not call you before 8 a.m. or after 9 p.m. The time frame may sound arbitrary, but think about it: This is when you’re away from work, at home with family, or resting in bed. When a debt collector calls at a time that is known to be inconvenient, David Menditto, director of litigation for Lifetime Debt Solutions, a law firm in Chicago, says, that’s a violation of the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA).

2. Calling at Other Inconvenient Times

If you’ve told the collector not to call at a certain time, even if it’s when you take a nap, Detweiler says, that’s another violation of the FDCPA. “If you were to tell the collector, I work nights, so don’t call me then, they can’t,” she says. Consumers can set the parameters.

3. Discussing Debt With Third Parties

“If a debt collector calls your mother and says, ‘Hi, we’re looking for John, he owes us money. How do we get in touch?’” that’s yet another violation of the FDCPA, Menditto tells “They can call, ask to speak with John, and ask whether this is a good number to reach him at, but they can’t be discussing the debt,” he says. Collectors are allowed to contact a debtor’s spouse, however.

If people you know are getting calls about a debt you may owe, it’s a good time to check your credit reports to see if there are delinquent accounts or collection accounts listed. You can get your credit reports for free once a year from each of the three major credit reporting agencies, and you can get a free credit report summary every month on, to look for any issues. There are debt collection scammers out there, so checking your credit is a way of verifying that the call is legitimate.

4. When a Lawyer’s Involved

If a collector calls even though he or she knows that you’ve hired an attorney, that’s a violation of the FDCPA, Menditto says. The reason: The consumer may intend to file for bankruptcy and they’ve probably told the collector to stop contacting them. “We’ve had clients who claimed they told the debt collector to stop calling, and they didn’t,” Menditto says. “Then they got an attorney and said, ‘Talk to him,’ and the collector kept calling and the collection got violated there.”

5. Making False Threats

Some collectors threaten to take action without really meaning it. For instance, they might say, “If you don’t pay in the next five days, we’re going to sue you,” Menditto says. If they keep making threats and don’t follow through, that’s a sure sign they’ve violated the FDCPA and you can sue.

6. Calling the Wrong Party

When a collector continues harassing you even though he’s got the wrong number, that’s grounds for a lawsuit, Menditto says. Typically, the collector thinks the person is lying about their identity, so they keep calling in the hopes the debtor will come clean.

7. Using Pre-Recorded or Automated Voice Calls

Robocalls aren’t just annoying, they’re flat-out illegal, Menditto says, citing the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), which regulates what’s known as automated calls. “The TCPA prohibits any company, not just a debt collector, from calling you on your cellphone using an automated telephone system or pre-recorded voice without your express consent,” he says. “We typically, in the majority of cases, get relief because the debt collector knows they did it.”

8. Using Automatic Phone Dialing Systems

Yes, there are machines that exist to solely crank out numerous phone calls. Known as a predictive dialer or ATDS, these telephone systems dial numbers one after another, and may contact consumers up to five times a day. They’re illegal under the TCPA and can net consumers who sue anywhere between $500 and $1,500 per call, as part of the damages.

9. Misrepresenting the Nature of the Debt

Though this tactic may work for collectors, it’s illegal to misrepresent the nature of the debt, Detweiler says, citing the FDCPA. A collector can’t pressure family members to pay a deceased relative’s debt because they’re responsible (which they aren’t, unless they were co-signers or joint account holders on the debt) or because they have a “moral obligation.” The law has severe penalties for these kinds of collectors, so those who are being harassed should contact a lawyer.

10. Threatening Violence

Has the collector threatened violence? That’s a violation of the FDCPA. “It can get pretty ugly if a collector is crossing the line,” Detweiler says, and “the ones who do create a lot of stress and anxiety that leads consumers to make a bad financial decision.”

11. Using Profanity

Fortunately, the FDCPA protects debtors from verbal abuse such as the use of obscene or profane language. If it’s meant to cause harm to the hearer or reader, it’s grounds for a lawsuit, according to the Federal Trade Commission.

12. False Representation

If a collector doesn’t state who they are to the consumer, be it in writing or over the phone, that’s yet another violation of the FDCPA, according to the FTC’s website. A collector must disclose to the consumer that they’re attempting to collect a debt and that any information obtained will be used for that purpose.

You’ll Get Paid When We Get Paid

posted on 2015-06-17 by Dean Kaplan

This is one of the most common ‘explanations’ we get while providing commercial collection services. How the debt collector responds to this assertion can have a big impact on understanding what is really going on and figuring out how to get paid even if they don’t get paid.

We know that many debt collectors will respond to this explanation very forcefully with something like: “It doesn’t matter if you are owed money. You agreed to pay for this product (service), you are X days late, and if you don’t pay immediately, then _____________ ” (fill in the blank with the extremely unpleasant consequence of your choice).

If this works, great! But if it doesn’t, the collector has gone a long ways towards shutting down communication and cooperation with the debtor or customer.

When we hear this explanation, our biggest fear is that it might be true. Since the financial crisis a few years ago, we’ve seen a much greater proportion of smaller businesses fail because a couple of their larger customers ceased operating without paying large receivables. This is a real domino effect which has even taken down a couple of our smaller clients as their delinquent receivables were not recoverable from defunct customers.

At the same time, we are excited, because the debtor has started with a specific explanation which can be scrutinized and thereby gives us the opportunity to establish communication and professional rapport. We start by giving positive reinforcement for their acknowledgement of the outstanding balance and the commitment to pay. We may even focus on getting an email confirmation that there are no disputes on the balance owed and that it is in their payables system, especially if it is for a service provided or a product that the debtor could later complain did not perform properly. This written confirmation can be very valuable down the road if the debtor’s financial struggles continue and they start looking for other excuses to not pay invoices.

As a collection agency, we are working on invoices that are already significantly past due. So if this is a real explanation, it has already been going on for a long time. And if that is the case, it is highly unlikely that the debtor’s customer is just about ready to pay. So, instead of asking “when do you expect to get paid so you can pay this bill,” we ask for background information, such as “please tell me what’s going on with this situation.”

At this point, we are using the additional information being provided to determine if this is a real explanation or just an excuse. We want to know a number of things, including:

  • How past due are their receivables;
  • How big are the receivables;
  • How many customers are causing this problem;
  • What is their history and relationship with the problem customer(s);
  • What do they know about their customer’s business and the likelihood of getting paid;
  • What is the financial status and viability of the debtor given their problem customers.

The answers to these questions let us know if their explanation:

  • is still accurate and the only hope for our client to get paid;
  • was initially legitimate but is no longer a viable path for paying our client;
  • is just an excuse.

There may not be much that anyone can do in the first instance, but in the second and third circumstances, this is where debt collection skill can lead to recovery.

For in-house collectors, we recommend that you get as much specific information as possible whenever this explanation is initially given. Send an email to the customer with all the information collected, asking them to confirm you have understood the situation correctly, with the explanation that you want to provide an accurate report to your manager. The sooner you understand what is truly going on with your customer, the less likely you will end up having to turn it over to a collection agency or eventually having to write off the full amount.

In my prior career as a CFO at several companies, I learned to never use the explanation “you’ll get paid when we get paid” unless I knew it would stand up to scrutiny. If I could explain that we had a surge in business from credit worthy customers and we were simply struggling with working capital issues until we got over the hump, the explanation typically got the relief we needed. But it only results in a short-term respite and a damaged relationship with the vendor in most other circumstances.

Why Kicking Debt Collectors Off of Your Credit Report Just Got Easier

posted on 2015-06-03 by Gerri Detweiler

 Deborah is trying to clean up her credit so she can purchase a home. But it's not proving easy. In particular, three collection accounts are causing major headaches. "One has listed a collections agency no longer in service, One collection agency will not return my calls. (left messages) and one has false info on it," she writes on the blog.

Dealing with collection accounts on your credit reports can sometimes be a long, frustrating process.

But relief is on the way — at least for some consumers. A recent agreement between 31 state attorneys general and the three major credit reporting agencies (CRAs) — Equifax, Experian and TransUnion — will change certain practices related to credit reporting. And when it does, there will be several important changes that may impact consumers who have debt in collections.

The End of Double Jeopardy?

If you don't pay a collection account, it may wind up with a second — or third — collection agency, resulting in multiple negative items on your credit reports. Sometimes referred to as "double jeopardy," two or three collection accounts for the same debt can affect your credit scores.

What will change: When collection agencies sell, transfer or no longer manage accounts they must update or delete the account. The agreement requires the CRAs to update their training materials for these companies that report, and make sure they know and follow this requirement.

Who Is That?

Sometimes consumers have found collection accounts listed on their reports but aren't sure what they are for. Collectors are supposed to report the name of the original creditor but not all do.

What will change: Collection agencies are already supposed to provide the name of the original creditor and a "classification code" that indicates the type of debt (for example, credit card or medical). Under the agreement, the CRAs must make this information mandatory and can reject accounts that don't meet the standards.

Note that you still won't see the names of medical providers because doing so may compromise your right to medical privacy; for example, if your credit report showed the name of a substance abuse rehabilitation clinic or a cancer center. "Privacy is the issue here," says Norm Magnuson vice president of public affairs for the Consumer Data Industry Association. "The collection account is codified so that others who receive the credit report can't identify the medical facility. The consumer can get the medical facility's name from the collection agency and/or the credit bureau if they want to validate the debt or don't know for whom the collection agency is working the debt."

But I Paid That!

We've received complaints from consumers who have paid off, or are making payments toward, collection accounts but their credit reports don't reflect those payments. From the complaints we received about this issue, it doesn't seem to be unusual for collectors to fail to update accounts when payments are being made.

What will change: Under the settlement, credit reporting agencies must require collection agencies that report data to "regularly reconcile" information about accounts that haven't been paid in full. If they don't? The agreement says, "This regular reconciliation will be accomplished, in part, by periodic removal or suppression of all collection accounts that have not been updated by the Collection Furnisher within the last six months." In other words, if a consumer has been making payments but the collection agency fails to update the account for at least six months, the account will either have to be removed or "suppressed," which means it won't be shown to companies that order the report, and won't be used to calculate a credit score.

It's worth noting, though, that unlike other types of credit accounts, making regular payments on a collection account typically doesn't help your credit scores. Under the most widely used credit scoring models, a collection account is considered negative, regardless of the size of the balance or payments that are being made. Still, there are some credit scoring models that ignore collection accounts where the balance is zero (VantageScore 3 and FICO 9) so it's helpful to make sure the information that is reported is accurate.

I Had No Idea

A reader recently told us he was contacted by a collection agency out of the blue, trying to collect on a court citation. "I have never received a citation and have contacted the court since I was not the driver of vehicle and live out of state." Whether is was a toll charged to you via your license plate number, or a parking ticket your son or daughter "forgot" to tell you about, tickets and other bills can sometimes wind up in collections without your knowledge. A survey by found that one in 10 consumers who reviewed their credit reports said they found a collection account they weren't aware of on their reports.

What will change: The agreement prohibits collection agencies from "reporting debt that did not arise from any contract or agreement to pay (including, but not limited to, certain fines, tickets, and other assessments)." Even better, this prohibition is retroactive: the CRAs are supposed to find a way to identify previously reported accounts of these types and remove them.

But…Hold Tight

Like any change of this scale, this won't happen overnight. Magnuson says these initiatives must be implemented within 6 – 36 months from the effective date of May 20, 2015. In the meantime you still have the right under the federal Fair Credit Reporting Act to dispute information on your credit reports that you believe is incorrect or incomplete. That won't change.

And neither will the need to review your credit reports and monitor your credit scores on a regular basis for changes. You can get your free annual credit reports from, and you can get a free credit report summary including two scores every month on After all, you can't fix a problem you aren't aware of in the first place.

Real reason behind CFPB’s new payday regs

posted on 2015-06-03 by Brian J. Wise

Last month, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau issued a “framework” for a rule that seeks to make it more difficult for consumers to obtain short-term or “payday loans.”  

At first glance, it defies explanation that the financial regulator would act so aggressively against a product that has high customer satisfaction rates and accounts for less than 5 percent of consumer complaints to the CFPB. It defies explanation until you understand who benefits the most; and it’s not the consumer. 

The CFPB’s rule is actually the culmination of a complex campaign executed by a network of political operatives under the direction, and for the benefit, of major Democrat Party operative Martin Eakes. Eakes is the chief executive officer, and co-founder, of Self-Help Enterprises. By severely limiting the ability for payday lenders to operate, it dramatically increases the market share for a portfolio of alternative products offered by Eakes and the numerous affiliated companies of Self-Help Enterprises. 

Put simply, the rule is designed to increase profits for Self-Help Enterprises (and Eakes) by making the CFPB, DOJ, and FDIC effectively serve as a front for Eakes’ network of “financial reform” organizations. Ultimately, taxpayers will foot the bill for the windfall.  

The products that Eakes offers are not unlike those of your typical storefront payday lender. The biggest difference comes in the form of Self-Help’s genius marketing and branding, and the unique business model that allows them to be profitable. While simultaneously vilifying the payday loan industry, Eakes offers his own subprime consumer loan products and charges overdraft fees - often at significantly higher rates than your standard payday loan. 

Eakes can offer these loans at a lower cost than free-market payday lenders because businesses connected with Eakes are the largest recipients of taxpayer funds through the Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI) Fund - over $300 million in the last 10 years. This taxpayer money subsidizes these types of loans to low-income families.  

Over the years, Eakes has relied on a front group he co-founded, the Center for Responsible Lending (CRL), as well as government agencies, to ensure that his pockets stay full and his companies stay successful. Between 2008 and 2010, CRL spent at least $2.1 million on Washington lobbyists. Of course, plenty of private companies invest in government outreach and lobbying. However, most aren’t so influential that they can orchestrate near complete control of government agencies like the CFPB and FDIC; and use those agencies to destroy their competition. 

Eakes makes no secret of the interconnected web of his non-profit and for-profit service providers including Self-Help Ventures, the Center for Community Self-Help, Self Help Credit Union, Self-Help Federal Credit Union, Self-Help Enterprises, his preferred front group, the Center for Responsible Lending, and his most powerful asset yet, the CFPB.  

For example, the first president of CRL, Mark Pearce, was appointed by President Obama to head the consumer protection division at the FDIC. Pearce has since been implicated as one of the masterminds behind Operation Choke Point, the Obama administration program that targets legal businesses by intimidating banks into cutting off their banking relationships with certain industries (including payday lenders and gun dealers). 

Eakes’ connections to the CFPB extend at least as high as Steve Antonakes, deputy director of the CFPB, whose personal relationships with both Mike Calhoun, president of CRL, and Eakes, extend back to his time as Massachusetts’s Banking Commissioner. Antonakes’ work in Massachusetts also centered around limiting or destroying the ability for consumers to access credit. 

Between the CFPB’s forthcoming rule on payday lending and Operation Choke Point (at the direction of Mark Pearce), Eakes’ network of operatives in the government’s most powerful agencies are poised to realize his objective – taking down the short-term loan industry and replacing it with products from his own network of service providers.   

If the free-market short-term lending industry is eliminated through regulatory action, the consumer need for such products will still exist. Eakes is poised to fill that need with taxpayer subsidized consumer loans, offered through his vast network of organizations throughout the country.

The Center for Responsible Lending is widely credited with advocating for, and developing the CFPB alongside one of its most closely aligned advocates, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.). It isn’t hard to see why Eakes, and CRL’s funders Herb and Marion Sandler, invested so much time and money into the inclusion of the consumer bureau in the Dodd-Frank legislation. 

There is no better way to manipulate the market for a product than to control the competition. And there is no better way to control the competition than through the heavy hand of an “independent” and unaccountable regulatory agency like the CFPB.   

In an interview about CRL, Martin Eakes said, “It’s an affiliated research and policy organization that started because we got really angry at the financial services sector, and in 2002 started this organization that has hired fifty lawyers, PhDs, and MBAs to basically terrorize the financial services industry.” There is no doubt that Martin Eakes has not only terrorized the financial services industry, but American consumers as well, threatening to deprive them of the ability to access the products and services that they want and need.

Wise is the senior adviser to the U.S. Consumer Coalition. ( @USConsumers

Are Debt Collectors Sending You Texts?

posted on 2015-05-27 by Bob Sullivan

Debt collectors reportedly have a new strategy to get consumers’ attention: text messages.

“YOUR PAYMENT DECLINED WITH CARD ****-****-****-5463 . . . CALL 866.256.2117 IMMEDIATELY,” reads one such text, according to the Federal Trade Commission.

The agency has temporarily halted three debt collection operations that allegedly misused texts and is attempting to permanently ban the activity as part of its “Messaging for Money” enforcement sweep.

New York-based Unified Global Group sent the text above, and others like it, the FTC says. Some consumers who received such texts hadn’t set up any card payment with the firm; and the firm failed to identify itself as a debt collector in the message, a violation of the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act, according to the FTC.

“Legitimate debt collectors know the rules,” said Jessica Rich, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “They can’t harass or lie to you, whether they send a text, email, or call you.”

The FTC also obtained restraining orders against New York-based Premier Debt Acquisitions and Georgia-based Primary Group, accusing each of sending texts and making phone calls that violated federal law.

The FTC alleges that Premier impersonated state or law enforcement officials, falsely threatened consumers with a lawsuit or arrest, and falsely threatened to charge some consumers with criminal fraud, garnish their wages, or seize their property. The FTC says the firm claimed in text messages that it would sue the consumers and threatened to seize their possessions unless they paid.

Primary Group was also accused of sending illegal texts. One example provided by the FTC: “I’m a process server w/ Primary Solutions, appointed to serve you papers for case [eight digit number]. Would you like delivery at [consumer’s home address]?”

Premier did not immediately respond to an email request for comment. A website listed for Primary Group was no longer in operation, and contact information for the firm was not immediately available. The same was true for Unified Group.

According to the FTC, Premier Debt Acquisitions also sent deceptive emails claiming that making a payment would help a consumer’s credit report, but the defendants had no ability to make good on that claim.

“They also kept trying to collect after consumers challenged the debt or its amount, without investigating the dispute,” the FTC said. “In one instance, they persisted despite written evidence that the debt was a result of identity theft and a prior debt collector had marked it fully paid. In other instances, the defendants tried to collect a payment even after they had received it, and hounded one person for two years about someone else’s debt.”

When a debt collector – or a party claiming to be one – contacts you, it’s important to do your research before you pay them. Ask the party to provide written verification of the debt they’re attempting to collect on. It’s also a good idea to get your credit reports to see if there are any collection accounts listed, and if there are any errors. You can get your free credit reports every year from, and you can get a free credit report summary every month from to watch for changes that could signal a problem that needs your attention.

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